K9academy


HomeCalendarFAQSearchMemberlistRegisterLog in

 

 Patchs "The Teacher"

View previous topic View next topic Go down 
Author Message
Betterdog4u
Moderator
Moderator
avatar

Posts : 1139
Reputation : 222
Join date : 2009-10-19
Location : Eastern Iowa

PostSubject: Patchs "The Teacher"   Sun Mar 28, 2010 11:56 pm

This may be a bit long ... so you may want to get confortable!!! ROFL

As some of you know, I have a neighbor who has some "somewhat strange" and some "old fashioned" views on how to raise a dog. You may also know that over the past year I have been offering my knowlege and skills (sometime unwanted or unsolisited) to help educate him and at the same time maybe help them raise the dog to be a respected member of the family.

Well, over the winter I have watched the dog become more and more wild and uncontrolable. The dog is very kind and well meaning. It is not dangerous or mean, but she has NO social skills. On a scale of 1-100 she is a minus 50. She has been allowed to do as she pleases with only minimal training.

Last summer i took Patchs over to play on several occations and after a few minutes of introduction they would play for a few hours with no problems. But today was a different story.

It has been 5 months since thier last play session, but they have seen each other thru the chainlink fence every day.

I walked thru the gate into thier yard with Patchs on a leash. Once I was inside, I made her sit to show proper respect. Keta, (the neighbor's dog) was also made to sit about ten feet away from the gate, but she was not able to remain calm. (She was bouncing all over and trying to pull away to get to Patchs). It took about ten minutes for the "ritual introduction" and then Keta was allowed to get up. I kept Patchs on her leash until we reached the grassy part of the yard (30 seconds) and then i let her go.

Almost instantly, Keta was leaping at and jumping on Patchs. Patchs was NOT happy. She began to snap and bark at Keta and it got pretty physcal. No biting or fighting, but I was afraid that we were going to have a fight if it were allowed to go on, so I took the leash and put it on Keta and used it to control her jumping and charging. Keta was the one making the contact, Patchs was just trying to stop her from doing it.

It was very clear that Keta was not aggressive, she was only trying to play, but she CLEARLY was not doing it in a social and exceptable manor. Her method was to jump and pounce and physcally control the situation.

With Keta on the leash, Patchs knew that I was protecting her, so she went into "teacher mode". For the next hour and 35 minutes, I stood there with my leash on Keta while Patchs held a series of classes on socialization. My neighbor stood there with his lower jaw in the grass as he watched and I explained what Patchs was doing. I explained that with her actions and her sounds she was showing and telling Keta what "was" and wasn't" exceptible behavour.

As the time passed you could see Keta's intenity level drop, and she went from jumping and charging to a more playful posture. Everytime Keta would start jumping or charging, Patchs just walked away and sniffed around the yard, or went up on the deck or something. After a few minutes she returned and they began again. It was really amazing to watch. And i NEVER called her back, she came back when Keta was ready. It was very interesting to see that everytime Patchs walked away, Keta just laid down next to me and quietly watched what Patchs was doing.

By the end of the session, Keta was much more relaxed and she were beginning to approch, sniff and lick Patchs' face like normal dog.

My neighbor was spechless ... we are going to get together tomorrow and start over again. I think an hour or two tomorrow will make a big difference. i hope to have them playing together buy next weekend, but we will need to do this every day this week to make that happen.

OH BTW, did I mention that I was SO PROUD of Patchs???? Wink

When Patchs is done, Neka will begin "Finishing School" classes !!! ROFL Just watching

_________________
- Michael -

Full of Life ... and Herself - Visit Patchs' Website
My Best Friend & Faithful Companion - Visit Neka's Memorial Website
My Little Buddy for 15+ Years - Visit Chip's Memorial Website

Back to top Go down
View user profile http://www.ABETTERDOG4U.com
Ann
Academy Professor
Academy Professor
avatar

Posts : 534
Reputation : 175
Join date : 2009-11-10

PostSubject: Re: Patchs "The Teacher"   Mon Mar 29, 2010 6:24 am

Good teamwork! I have to watch Baloo with smaller dogs for the same reason. He approaches like a tsunami at times. The two older dogs here correct him for bad behavior, but he knows smaller dogs aren't as likely to. The puppy class has helped him immensely, but I still keep him on a leash when he meets smaller puppies until he calms down a bit. I know if I keep at it he'll improve as he matures.
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Betterdog4u
Moderator
Moderator
avatar

Posts : 1139
Reputation : 222
Join date : 2009-10-19
Location : Eastern Iowa

PostSubject: Re: Patchs "The Teacher"   Mon Mar 29, 2010 9:47 am

I forgot to mention that Keta is the Rottie next door. She has a roommate which is the MAIN reason the neighbor asked me to bring Patchs over. It is a 4 yo Bechon that tips the scales at all of about 6 pounds.

The idea was for Patchs to play with Keta and Keta would then burn off some energy so she wouldnt POUND on Babe (the bechon) so much. Well, that Idea went out the window very quickly after we recieved the greeting we got. Shocked

Keta's problem is: that in her mind, she is still a puppy. She doesn't know her own strength. She doesn't have a visious bone in her body, and with some social skills she will be a great dog.

The REAL issue here is not with the dog, it's with her humans. They are very busy ppl and real dont have the time or the drive it takes to raise a "power breed" ...

I hope that last evening was a "wake up" call for them. I'm going to put a list of things for them and help them schedule that list into thier day. The dog needs structure and with a bit of that, she should do much better.

_________________
- Michael -

Full of Life ... and Herself - Visit Patchs' Website
My Best Friend & Faithful Companion - Visit Neka's Memorial Website
My Little Buddy for 15+ Years - Visit Chip's Memorial Website

Back to top Go down
View user profile http://www.ABETTERDOG4U.com
lucysnewmum
Academy Guru
Academy Guru


Posts : 161
Reputation : 37
Join date : 2010-01-12
Location : bournemouth, england

PostSubject: Re: Patchs "The Teacher"   Mon Mar 29, 2010 8:15 pm

way to go Patches! the canine dog whisperer!!! cheers
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Betterdog4u
Moderator
Moderator
avatar

Posts : 1139
Reputation : 222
Join date : 2009-10-19
Location : Eastern Iowa

PostSubject: Re: Patchs "The Teacher"   Mon Mar 29, 2010 8:46 pm

lucysnewmum wrote:
way to go Patches! the canine dog whisperer!!! cheers
Yep, she doesn't need her "pack" she just uses her communication skills!!!

_________________
- Michael -

Full of Life ... and Herself - Visit Patchs' Website
My Best Friend & Faithful Companion - Visit Neka's Memorial Website
My Little Buddy for 15+ Years - Visit Chip's Memorial Website

Back to top Go down
View user profile http://www.ABETTERDOG4U.com
Betterdog4u
Moderator
Moderator
avatar

Posts : 1139
Reputation : 222
Join date : 2009-10-19
Location : Eastern Iowa

PostSubject: Re: Patchs "The Teacher"   Mon Mar 29, 2010 8:54 pm

UPDATE:
We went over this morning about 11:30. Keta was in the yard when we got there, so I just opened the gate and walked in. As I closed the gate she heard the latch close. She charged at us from about 50 feet away.

We stood there just watching. As Keta got to about 10 feet she put on the brakes, gave a play bow, and barked. Patchs returned the bow and I let the leash go.

The ran and chased each other around the yard for about ten minutes, barking and playing. I stayed for about a half hour and when we left, they were playing with tug toys and balls and everything else they could get a hold of.

This happened MUCH faster than i expected ... but Im very happy. Wednesday Neka is going to visit ... Grin

_________________
- Michael -

Full of Life ... and Herself - Visit Patchs' Website
My Best Friend & Faithful Companion - Visit Neka's Memorial Website
My Little Buddy for 15+ Years - Visit Chip's Memorial Website

Back to top Go down
View user profile http://www.ABETTERDOG4U.com
Ann
Academy Professor
Academy Professor
avatar

Posts : 534
Reputation : 175
Join date : 2009-11-10

PostSubject: Re: Patchs "The Teacher"   Tue Mar 30, 2010 4:15 am

How old is Keta?
Rotties need a lot of exercise even when they get a little older. My two 10+ dogs still like to chase balls, etc. even though they're not as quick as they used to be.
Funny about the charge...most people would have flipped over the fence backward. lol
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Betterdog4u
Moderator
Moderator
avatar

Posts : 1139
Reputation : 222
Join date : 2009-10-19
Location : Eastern Iowa

PostSubject: Re: Patchs "The Teacher"   Tue Mar 30, 2010 10:14 am

Ann wrote:
How old is Keta?
Rotties need a lot of exercise even when they get a little older. My two 10+ dogs still like to chase balls, etc. even though they're not as quick as they used to be.
Funny about the charge...most people would have flipped over the fence backward. lol

Keta turned 1 YO at the end of January ... And YES, if I didnt know the dog, I would have picked up Patchs and hurdled the 4 foot high gate!!! ROFL The fact that I have know and played with her since she was 8 weeks old gave me the confidence to stand my ground. She knows that she cant intimadate me, and she knows I mean business. Her CHARGE was strictly an excited move and I'm positive that Patchs knew it too because she was beginning to "bow" as Keta started to "put on the brakes" ... Grin

_________________
- Michael -

Full of Life ... and Herself - Visit Patchs' Website
My Best Friend & Faithful Companion - Visit Neka's Memorial Website
My Little Buddy for 15+ Years - Visit Chip's Memorial Website

Back to top Go down
View user profile http://www.ABETTERDOG4U.com
Ann
Academy Professor
Academy Professor
avatar

Posts : 534
Reputation : 175
Join date : 2009-11-10

PostSubject: Re: Patchs "The Teacher"   Tue Mar 30, 2010 5:27 pm

Keta IS a puppy, even though she doesn't look like one anymore. Rotties and I would assume most other breeds don't mature mentally until they are about 2 years old.

I have had full grown Rotties charge at me in play and body slam me to the ground. There's nothing quite like it! It does need to be discouraged or at least redirected to something a little less harsh. hahaha. But I'll say it again, there's nothing quite like it!
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Betterdog4u
Moderator
Moderator
avatar

Posts : 1139
Reputation : 222
Join date : 2009-10-19
Location : Eastern Iowa

PostSubject: Re: Patchs "The Teacher"   Tue Mar 30, 2010 10:26 pm

Ann wrote:
I have had full grown Rotties charge at me in play and body slam me to the ground. There's nothing quite like it! It does need to be discouraged or at least redirected to something a little less harsh. hahaha. But I'll say it again, there's nothing quite like it!
I've been body slammed several times by Neka, Patchs and Chip too when he was with me. I've also had my legs knocked out from under me by MANY other dogs during play and it is an experence that is "second to none" ... ROFL Shocked

_________________
- Michael -

Full of Life ... and Herself - Visit Patchs' Website
My Best Friend & Faithful Companion - Visit Neka's Memorial Website
My Little Buddy for 15+ Years - Visit Chip's Memorial Website

Back to top Go down
View user profile http://www.ABETTERDOG4U.com
schnauzkyLVR
Academy Guru
Academy Guru
avatar

Posts : 334
Reputation : 43
Join date : 2009-11-06
Location : Seattle, WA

PostSubject: Re: Patchs "The Teacher"   Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:45 pm

definitely a good story! Grin
nice job! hehe *thumbs up!*
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Betterdog4u
Moderator
Moderator
avatar

Posts : 1139
Reputation : 222
Join date : 2009-10-19
Location : Eastern Iowa

PostSubject: Re: Patchs "The Teacher"   Wed Mar 31, 2010 9:00 pm

Neka is going over with me tomorrow!!!

_________________
- Michael -

Full of Life ... and Herself - Visit Patchs' Website
My Best Friend & Faithful Companion - Visit Neka's Memorial Website
My Little Buddy for 15+ Years - Visit Chip's Memorial Website

Back to top Go down
View user profile http://www.ABETTERDOG4U.com
Ann
Academy Professor
Academy Professor
avatar

Posts : 534
Reputation : 175
Join date : 2009-11-10

PostSubject: Re: Patchs "The Teacher"   Wed Mar 31, 2010 9:35 pm

I'll bet miss rottie is loving the attention! Let us know how tomorrow goes!
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Betterdog4u
Moderator
Moderator
avatar

Posts : 1139
Reputation : 222
Join date : 2009-10-19
Location : Eastern Iowa

PostSubject: Re: Patchs "The Teacher"   Thu Apr 01, 2010 3:21 pm

We went over this morning and I actually decided to take both dogs. I had the owner hold Patchs out front (Were Keta couldnt see her) as i introduced Neka.

Keta approched slowly and respectfully, but then tryed to put her paw on Neka's back. Neka went off and "snarked" (bark/snarl) for about two seconds and then everything was fine! As they played I brought Patchs in ... everything was cool, and they played together for about 25 mins.

We are planning on visiting a few times a week for the next month or so to reinforce the behaivor. I've also offered to go on walks with her owners so that I can help when they run across new dogs. This will just be until they are comfortable with it.

_________________
- Michael -

Full of Life ... and Herself - Visit Patchs' Website
My Best Friend & Faithful Companion - Visit Neka's Memorial Website
My Little Buddy for 15+ Years - Visit Chip's Memorial Website

Back to top Go down
View user profile http://www.ABETTERDOG4U.com
Steven_L
Admin
Admin
avatar

Posts : 1628
Reputation : 120
Join date : 2009-09-28
Location : Southern California, USA

PostSubject: Re: Patchs "The Teacher"   Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:55 pm

Wow thats great, awesome example of how effective dog-dog training can be! So glad to hear that its turned out so well these last couple meetings! I sure hope that this education sticks in the pups mind and helps her interact with other pooches!

_________________


For more information on your furry companion visit K9Domain!
http://k9domain.web.officelive.com/default.aspx
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://k9domain.web.officelive.com
Sponsored content




PostSubject: Re: Patchs "The Teacher"   

Back to top Go down
 

Patchs "The Teacher"

View previous topic View next topic Back to top 
Page 1 of 1

Permissions in this forum: You cannot reply to topics in this forum
K9academy :: Dog Forums :: Dog Training and Behavior -
Forumotion.com | © phpBB | Free forum support | Contact | Report an abuse | Forumotion.com