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PostSubject: Vets are for Medicine   Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:21 pm

It has always been my train of thought that vets are meant to give out medical/pharmaceutical(sp) advice only. Not training, not breeding, not nutrition. Well this idea has been clearly reinforced last saturday in Vet Assist. class.

We were talking a bit about animal handling, and obviously this was going to go into behaviorism and training. Well we got offtopic (happens often Nervous ) talking about training dogs, and someone asked what he can do about dog and jumping on people. This being a common question on forums, I began thinking of the different things he could try....I was wondering what the professor would say....the second I heard the advice given I flinched Shocked

The professor, a long time Registered Veterinarian Technician, Dog Breeder (maybe??), and Handler said that the best way to get rid of this behavior on the dog (which was a Pit) was to knee it on the chest..........here was my face>>>> Seriously? When we got on the topic of puppy nipping the advice was to give it a good swat...... Suspect

Don't get me wrong, I really admire our professor, she knows her stuff and gives awesome advice when it comes to being part of the veterinary team, but two thumbs way down for the training aspect. I decided to butt-in and offer the negative punishment/dog friendly method of ignoring the dog until it sits down. She said that would work too silent

Anyway, I remain solid in my position that vets should only give medical advice unless thoroughly trained in other fields.

What do you guys think?

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PostSubject: Re: Vets are for Medicine   Mon Mar 22, 2010 7:20 pm

My vet worked as a trainer while going through vet school. He's actually very good. The other vets in the office are just as quick to hand out training advice, but none of them have that expertise. Most customers would not know who to listen to and who not to.
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PostSubject: Re: Vets are for Medicine   Mon Mar 22, 2010 7:43 pm

its quite frightening sometimes what some people come out with. the lady with the Rottie problems was told by someone to Squeal next time the dog snapped or bit her!!!! ((((shudders)))).
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PostSubject: Re: Vets are for Medicine   Mon Mar 22, 2010 7:57 pm

good grief...yeah...feed that prey drive!
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PostSubject: Re: Vets are for Medicine   Mon Mar 22, 2010 7:59 pm

more a case of feed the Rottie!!!! lol the person giving the advice is supposed to be behaviourists!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Vets are for Medicine   Tue Mar 23, 2010 5:25 pm

I think it would be only beneficial if certain vets learned more about dogs as you mentioned so they can provide better advice since people look to them for pet advice.
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PostSubject: Re: Vets are for Medicine   Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:45 pm

as a prospective trainer i am learning the opposite. i am researching the effectiveness (or not as the case may be) of herbal/holistic remedies. as a trainer i am not allowed to prescribe anything for my pet or anyone elses - i can get sued if something goes wrong and probably prosecuted. PROBLEM - i know from first hand experience and from talking to other dog owners that RESCUE REMEDY really works for nervous or anxious dogs. part of the code of conduct of my business will be that i shall "impart as much relevant knowledge as possible of a given situation for the purpose of rectifying an unwanted behaviour",

answers on a postcard please!!!! cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Vets are for Medicine   Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:32 pm

The problem even with some "professionals" is that they take courses, get taught, blah blah but it stops there. They constantly take in everything that is taught to them without second thought to whether its right or not. Thats what I like about many members from online communities, that they usually will form their own opinions, learn a thing here and there, question it and mold it using previous held knowledge.

I guess we could say that this is the same problem we have with your 'average owners' they take everything they hear as being correct without taking the time to question it.

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