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PostSubject: Your training method   Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:09 pm

Everyone has a certain way that they teach their dog. What is yours? Are there certain things that just simply don't work? Are there any particular trainers whose techniques you follow, if so why?

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PostSubject: Re: Your training method   Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:40 pm

I really dont use one "type" of training ...

My "method" of training is to take time to evaluate the dog, find out it's likes and dislikes and then devise a plan based on the dog's personality and energy level. In devising the plan I use the things that the dog likes as a reward to encourage the dog to make the right choices. Then I praise the dog for making those correct choices.

EXAMPLE: With my last three, I spent the first two or three weeks JUST getting to know them. No training, just hanging out and taking notes!!! ONLY then did I begin to train. By finding out what they liked and what thier personalities were like, It was much easier to "connect" with them and it made the training easier.

Dogs are much like people, in that they want you to like them and they want to hang out with you if you are nice and fun to be around. For this reason, if you know what THEY like, you become more fun!!! If you know what they like, you can use those things to create a wonderful friendship and then a strong trusting bond.

With Patchs it is a treat or her Kong toy. When I trained her to come, I offered her a treat or the Kong. She would ALWAYS come to get it. If I didnt know that her "Highest Value Reward" was a treat or the Kong, and I tryed to use shoouting or phyical hitting, (her Lowest Value Reward) the training would have taken much longer or would have been much less effective.

With Neka it was a soft voice and tactile rewards. She just wants to be loved. If you offer her quiet praise she will do most anything for you. She likes treats almost as much!!!

The thing I feel is the most ineffective in dog training is strong-handed, physical, or Dominate training. Yes, a dog will respond, but only out of fear of being hit or abused. Sooner or later the dog's fear will take over and it will become aggressive. At this point the dog will turn on the trainer and it will NOT be good. When this happens, the owner or the public will label the dog Vissous and it will be destroyed. It wasnt the dog's fault, but the dog paid the price!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Your training method   Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:17 pm

You are absolutely right about aversive training being ineffective. Many times we have to put ourselves in our dogs position, if they arent listening to us is it possible that we arent making it clear what we want? Or maybe giving cues that tell the dog to do something else? But as you say too getting to know a dog as an individual and bond is key to training.

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PostSubject: Re: Your training method   Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:49 am

Steven_L wrote:
You are absolutely right about aversive training being ineffective. Many times we have to put ourselves in our dogs position, if they arent listening to us is it possible that we arent making it clear what we want? Or maybe giving cues that tell the dog to do something else? But as you say too getting to know a dog as an individual and bond is key to training.
Several weeks ago I had a neighbor ask me why his dog would not come when it was called. I went over to his house and OBSERVED him for about 5 minutes and I had it figured out. He was "stressed out" and you could hear it in is voice.

I had only met the dog 2 or 3 times for a minute or two before this ... I simply crouched down and in a calm, firm but friendly voice said, "Come Here" and she ran right up to me and sat down in front of me ... Shocked Needless to say the owner was in shock!!!

He said, "How the H$%@ di you do that?" so I spent the next hour explaining it ... Idea I also borrowed him my copy of "What Color is Your Dog" ... He brought it back over the weekend and said it was a great book and it was going to be very helpful. He now realizes that it's HIM not the dog!!! (as is almost always the case)
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PostSubject: Re: Your training method   Thu Oct 22, 2009 12:34 am

How right you are! Its almost always the owners fault, I havent read the book you mentioned, but McConnell`s The Other End of the Leash outlined how our primate tendencies clash with our companions canine tendencies.

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PostSubject: Re: Your training method   Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:04 am

Steven_L wrote:
How right you are! Its almost always the owners fault, I havent read the book you mentioned, but McConnell`s The Other End of the Leash outlined how our primate tendencies clash with our companions canine tendencies.
I haven't red "The Other End of the Leash" yet but I intend to do so in the near future.

"What Color is Your Dog" pretty much explains the foundation of my "Training Concept" ... In the late 80's Joel Silverman put out a VHS and cassette set called "The Hollywood Dog Trainer". I had it given to me as a Christmas Gift when I was starting to look for Chip. I followed it exactly and without question. IT WORKED, so I have stuck with it. Ive made a few minor adjustments to it to make it fit my personally, but i have not made any changes to the theory behind his "concept" ...

"What Color is Your Dog" is the printer version of that VHS and cassette set.

Note: His idea is that all dogs have different personalities and energy levels. And he breaks them down into color groups. Blue = Fearful .. Yellow in Calm / Confident .. Red = Very High Strung. It is obvous that you cant train a fearful or timid dog with the same methods you use on a high energy dog. The key to communication is to treat every dog as an individual and adjust your "method" to train each dog based on its personalities and energy level. The book goes into the meat and patatoes of this and shows you how he does it.
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PostSubject: Re: Your training method   Thu Oct 22, 2009 2:29 pm

Seems like a good read Grin I'll have to see if I can order it here from the library. Its an interesting concept to put groups like that, I mean, I guess its not all that simple but when it comes to educating others we don't want to confuse them either.lol.

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PostSubject: Re: Your training method   Thu Oct 22, 2009 2:54 pm

Steven_L wrote:
Seems like a good read Grin I'll have to see if I can order it here from the library. Its an interesting concept to put groups like that, I mean, I guess its not all that simple but when it comes to educating others we don't want to confuse them either.lol.
He has a website called "Companions For Life" that explains A LOT of his Concept. He also offers training DVD's and some of it is in video form that you can watch online.

The site is: http://www.companionsforlife.net

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PostSubject: Re: Your training method   Thu Oct 22, 2009 2:59 pm

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Steven_L wrote:
Seems like a good read Grin I'll have to see if I can order it here from the library. Its an interesting concept to put groups like that, I mean, I guess its not all that simple but when it comes to educating others we don't want to confuse them either.lol.
He has a website called "Companions For Life" that explains A LOT of his Concept. He also offers training DVD's and some of it is in video form that you can watch online.

The site is: http://www.companionsforlife.net


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PostSubject: Re: Your training method   Thu Oct 22, 2009 3:18 pm

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betterdog4u wrote:
Steven_L wrote:
Seems like a good read Grin I'll have to see if I can order it here from the library. Its an interesting concept to put groups like that, I mean, I guess its not all that simple but when it comes to educating others we don't want to confuse them either.lol.
He has a website called "Companions For Life" that explains A LOT of his Concept. He also offers training DVD's and some of it is in video form that you can watch online.

The site is: http://www.companionsforlife.net


Hey thats a good site to add the K9Domain directory! Thanks for the link Wink
Your welcome, I added it to th links directory at abetterdog4u.com too!!!

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